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Post by Arrianna on Sept 29, 2006 12:19:29 GMT -5
Now, you all know I have children. And I'm someone who believes that you should see what your children watch. There's a new show on Playhouse Disney called Handy Manny. This morning it was turned OFF. Now don't get me wrong. I can live with cutsie. I don't even mind simplification. But when they take real life situations and give incorrect solutions I draw the line. I had the same problem with Higgly Town Hero's. Let me give you the full picture of what I mean. In Higgly Town Hero's one day they got a flat tire. Now the whole show is about everyday hero's and how they help others out. So you would think "it's a flat tire, a mechanic could stop and show them how to change it" wouldn't you? Well I would. Here's what happened... they called a tow truck. A tow truck! For a flat tire! The mind boggles. Handy Manny has just taken this to a whole new level though. Speaking of mechanics that's what he is as well as a general handy man. He gets called to someone's home because they bought a new stove and it was dropped off on their porch while they were out. Simple right? You would think so. They put the stove on a dolly and try to put it through the doorway.... lengthwise. A new 48" four burner with grill through a 36" doorway. It doesn't fit... and somehow this is an emergency. Now think about this for a minute. The doorway is 36". The stove is 48" wide... and 24"-30" deep. How is it supposed to go through the door? The stupidity boggles my mind and as I tell them to turn it off my son looks at me and say, and I quote, "No mom! I saw the advertisment for this one and they're going to solve it by cutting the door bigger." Why are they teaching my children to be stupid?! Please someone, anyone?
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Post by missteetheironchef on Sept 29, 2006 13:05:28 GMT -5
It's the Devil's idea, Arri!
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Post by mickster on Sept 29, 2006 13:16:15 GMT -5
ROFLOLOLOLOL. Sorry Arri, but that is pretty funny. Whomever wrote that show has a mental problem! Or is it called [glow=red,2,300]STUPIDITY [/glow]
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Post by Man Alive! on Sept 29, 2006 16:05:13 GMT -5
The people that write childrens' shows these days really do a terrible job. Some are just so incoherent and, as Arrianna says, stupid, that I'm afraid my brain will melt when I flip by them.
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Post by missteetheironchef on Sept 29, 2006 16:11:58 GMT -5
Thank God I'm not a kid anymore.
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Post by mickster on Sept 30, 2006 9:55:09 GMT -5
Many of the childrens' cartoons are really violent. Not that they haven't been throughout the years, even old cartoons like the Road Runner, Bugs Bunny, ect., from the 40's and 50's were violent. But kids are much different now because of the influence tv and videos have on them. Well, it's up to the parents to take control, IMHO.
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Post by allezcuisine on Oct 1, 2006 10:40:09 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Popeye? The kids today are getting dumber, even as they grow older. I don't see the point/moral in cartoons today. They are way to violent, and as I see it, just as bad as a violent video game. I'm glad you took charge to take it off, Arrianna.
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Post by Arrianna on Oct 1, 2006 12:29:52 GMT -5
You know, I don't think that I ever saw Popeye....
They're not just violent they also treat audults like they are stupid. [sarcasm]That's a great message to send to children.[/sarcasm] That's why I usually go with playhouse disney. Their preschool programing didn't have any of that. Now I have to watch for the stupidity factor. We also don't let them watch their Safety Patrol shorts for the smart mouthed kids. Fudge, so much for a safe channel.
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Post by Man Alive! on Oct 1, 2006 18:42:50 GMT -5
Arrianna, you've never seen Popeye?! It's classic! It's genuinely funny, and the animation is shockingly better than a lot of what is produced today.
I agree with you guys about the stupid factor. I mean, some shows are just so "dumbed down" it makes you want to shoot yourself.
On another note, I don't necessarily think that "fantasy violence" is bad for kids in cartoons. Lasers, magic, that kind of violence really doesn't affect kids too badly. What bothers me is when cartoons depict realistic violence, with real people hurting each other with real-world weapons. I know a lot of you will disagree with me on this, but violence has been a part of cartoons for as long as I remember. Heck, even Popeye was violent. Looney Tunes were violent! It's how the violence is depicted that really draws the line. For instance, a robot shooting lasers at another robot is completely different than a man shooting his enemy with a handgun.
But that's just my two cents.
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Post by herringchoker on Oct 1, 2006 19:31:40 GMT -5
As someone who grew up on Looney Tunes and turned out OK (no laughter, please), I think MA is right about cartoon violence in the sense that the more realistic it is the more dangerous it is. I always understood that what happened in the cartoons was make-believe; after all, there's no such thing as a talking rabbit or duck.......
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Post by mickster on Oct 2, 2006 10:38:17 GMT -5
True, HC. Parents need to teach their kids from the start that this is not reality. But look at the commercials today, directed at adults. The process continues with things like talking frogs, lizards, ducks, etc. Another thing that bugs the heck out of me is what the schools serve children for lunch. Corn dogs, pizza, mac and cheese, way too many carbs, and then for desserts, things like cake, cookies, more carbs. No wonder kids are so fat these days. And the schools have all but cut out recess. Then on tv there is always food being advertised that is directed mainly to kids. Hmmm. It's all a learning process, kids can be taught to appreciate healthy foods, given time and the same effort the media gives to unhealthy food. Oh well. I can only take care of myself, thank goodness no kids here.
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Post by Sanji Himura on Oct 2, 2006 12:22:08 GMT -5
I too have grown up on Looney Tunes, and I feel that I turned out okay.
Here's the deal about all of this. TV today thinks that kids need to be programmed on what to think, instead of allowing parents to teach them. That is why I don't watch "educational" shows today. Now I understand the need to give kids a role model, but if their message isn't kosher, then the plug needs to be pulled.
Here's two examples. Barney the purple dinosaur, and Roger Smith from Big O(omiting season 2 for very good reason).
Barney does teach that Imagination is a very good thing, however, he doesn't teach that there is real world solutions out there, and "a great big hug and a kiss from me to you" won't save you from someone intent to kill you.
Smith, on the other hand, teaches good morals, like respecting women and the elderly, always carry out your promises, and seeing your job through to the end. Good values to learn right? I knew you would agree with me even if Big O has stylized violence and course language(I think, but you be the judge). The show has even drawn heat because of its message. I have a rebuke to one such paper(I think it is from Miami) actually saying that the show was better than the others that was showing around it. I can send it to you if you would like to see it for yourself.
The whole point of this is that you can't judge a book by its cover, and it is the responsibility of each parent out there to filter it out.
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Post by kagasmistress on Oct 23, 2006 21:51:31 GMT -5
I keep wondering. Whatever happened to making really good educational shows like The Electric Company? I used to love that show when I was a kid.
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Post by Arrianna on Oct 23, 2006 21:52:22 GMT -5
It's now considered a classic.
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Post by herringchoker on Oct 28, 2006 18:48:59 GMT -5
Electric Company was cool, but I preferred Square One.
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