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Post by Man Alive! on Jul 16, 2007 18:56:30 GMT -5
ICC, I HAVE described the techniques for my cooking. I have even given the number of time I cook each part of the recipe. If they cannot take the time, as Sanji mentioned, to discover if theirr criticism has any bearing on reality by a simple google search of similar recipes and comparing them with my descriptions then they are wasting my time. The way it has been done does mean that the chef cannot cook. Consistency is the foremost importance in running a restaurant and the things they are choosing to criticize are not the "unfamiliar" ingredients but basic everyday techniques. This is not me throwing a fit because I am being criticized. I expect that. This is me being pissed off because the hard work I put into making a realistic fun RP is being trampled on by someone who is imposing actions on my character and trivializing the work I do. I spend hours coming up with new dishes for this RP. Discuss the bloody dish instead of insisting the character doesn't know basic cooking techniques. Seriously, it isn't fun at that point and I have no desire to do it again unless some type of reasonable guidelines can be come to to keep it from happening anymore. Or would any of you like me to judge your dishes in an RP by informing you you burned them all? I have to agree with you. It's just taking things a bit too far and removing the fun. Your "burning" comment is totally true. It can be done to every chef in every RPG. But it's not, because it's taking it too far, and it removes the whole fantasy fun element. Do we really need to create JUDGING GUIDELINES or can we just be nice? Because, if need be, I'm more than willing to be the fun-eliminator and make judgment a pain for everyone.
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Post by achen on Jul 16, 2007 23:30:14 GMT -5
Sorry again. I was thinking it was like the battle where Iron Chef Morimoto was in the sushi battle, where the lid trapped the moisture and also in a battle where Hirano said the rice was soggy when the lid was placed on. I just got to step back from the character and let what I really think come out. Sorry again though.
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Post by Arrianna on Jul 18, 2007 7:19:40 GMT -5
I take it you don't own a rice cooker then Achen? After cooking the rice you can leave the lid on for hours and keep the rice fresh for serving. It doesn't become overcooked unless you have added to much water or you add additional liquid to it after it's cooked. In fact if you leave it on warm for to long it will begin to dry out. Rice that has been cooked properly not only absorbs all the water it absorbs all the steam produced in cooking as well.
Honestly, guidelines are not that hard for this sort of thing. As I said before there is a basic rule in on-line RPG's that you never control what another character does. If someone makes an obvious mistake in the preparation described in the RPG itself by all means call them on it. Simply DO NOT decide that the food has been mishandled or improperly cooked just to find something to criticize. That is controlling their actions and is insulting to boot.
Not sure how something would taste? Discuss it here. That is what we have an OOC thread for after all. Don't think it would taste good or that ingredients would clash? Say so. You are being asked for your opinion on how the food tastes after all.
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Post by Man Alive! on Jul 18, 2007 15:04:09 GMT -5
I guess I'm going to have to make that clear for the next RPG, and I'll definitely add it to the rules when the time comes for the next battle to begin.
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Post by achen on Jul 18, 2007 19:07:00 GMT -5
It is true Arrianna. I don't own a rice cooker. When I do, I usually use a metal pot. When I keep the lid on, the rice usually gets soggy and pastie. I guess I also use to much water. I also didn't mean to control another character, but I guess the phrasing was also off. I just meant for it to be like the show when the taster tries to change the dish. Sorry again.
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Post by Arrianna on Jul 19, 2007 9:55:07 GMT -5
It's ok Achen. I'm not as angry anymore.
It is true that it might happen, the thing is it also might not happen. Since you aren't actually getting the food you are facing a situation where any number of things might happen. If you are looking for something to be critical of it is very easy to say "the rice could end up soggy so I am going to say it does." Problem is that just isn't fair. Every dish in existence has some way it can be messed up from cooking the turkey 1 minute to long and drying it out to adding to much acidity and making a dish too tart. If there is any question on something that might happen you owe the player the benefit of the doubt otherwise you are controlling them and their food. It simply isn't fair.
As I said before though if it is obvious they messed up in the RP itself, then they have made their own actions, and by all means call them on it. Don't like the food, say so.
As is I am now looking at a judging full of "it happened" none of which fits the later category. Apologies mean nothing when the judging posts remain unchanged and on record as my chef being utterly incompetent. As is I am seriously unsure whether I ever wish to be a chef in one of these competitions again. I seriously spend hours working on the dishes I use. Being told it sucked because something might have happened and not because there was anything wrong with the flavor of the dish itself makes me feel as if I utterly wasted my time.
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Post by Man Alive! on Jul 19, 2007 17:46:49 GMT -5
I hate to stray a little off-topic here (or maybe back "on target" ), but how long should we wait before moving forward? I usually like to wait for all judges to make their final comment, but AC's been very busy lately. Through no fault of his, it's taking a while to get that final comment in before moving on.
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Post by allezcuisine on Jul 19, 2007 19:29:55 GMT -5
Wow. I missed allot.
Anyways, I am back now, and the RPG can continue.
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Post by Man Alive! on Jul 20, 2007 12:43:08 GMT -5
Great news! You did indeed miss a lot, AC, but you're very fortunate that you missed it.
Anyway, we can move forward with the Iron Chef's dishes now. You're up, Misstee!
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Post by missteetheironchef on Jul 25, 2007 12:58:47 GMT -5
Aye, MA!
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Post by ironchefcanadian on Aug 15, 2007 7:54:25 GMT -5
Heh heh heh . . . Possible plot point: With Arianna's victory, the RPG Iron Chefs have now lost two in a row.
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Post by missteetheironchef on Aug 15, 2007 10:47:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the facts, icc.
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Post by Man Alive! on Aug 15, 2007 14:00:05 GMT -5
Heh heh heh . . . Possible plot point: With Arianna's victory, the RPG Iron Chefs have now lost two in a row. Uh oh. I think the Chairman is going to be a bit angry in the next RPG.
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