Sanji Himura: Depends. If you actually visited the place, then it would go under Restaurant Recommendations. If not, then maybe under Iron Chef/Challenger discussion.
Jul 1, 2022 18:59:18 GMT -5
okonomiyagi: Say I want to post a restaurant review of a chef featured on an iteration of the show: would that go under the board for the show, or under Iron Chef/Challenger discussion?
Jul 1, 2022 10:50:36 GMT -5
ironnut77: Sanji - I believe that "two victory" rule was in the very early days of the original show, scrapped after 1993 or so.
Jun 28, 2022 8:00:54 GMT -5
Sanji Himura: Few were brave enough to try it in ICJ, I can count a few of them off the top of my head, Toshiro Kandagawa is a top contender.
Jun 27, 2022 18:31:31 GMT -5
Sanji Himura: Tell me the truth here. Am I the only one who is slightly put off over the fact that the challenger in the final battle did NOT get to pick her Iron Chef of choice to do battle with? Two victories over an IC in ICJ earns a chef IC status...
Jun 27, 2022 18:30:13 GMT -5
Man Alive!: Those were the days! Kitchen Stadium took in many refugees from the wonderful Iron Fans community. I miss the old crew!
May 13, 2022 1:43:08 GMT -5
ironnut77: rosdaddy - ManAlive was indeed with us on IronFans. A bunch of the IronFans members followed him here once that site was defunct. Sadly, not many remain active today.
May 12, 2022 10:20:55 GMT -5
rosdaddy: Hey ManAlive - Nice to digitally meet you (or, re-meet if you were on the boards back in the early oughts)
May 11, 2022 23:23:38 GMT -5
Man Alive!: I'm still here! My heart swells every time I see renewed interest in Iron Chef!
May 5, 2022 1:38:18 GMT -5
ironnut77: Haven't seen ManAlive in a while - hope all is well, and that he can see the slight uptick in activity on this site recently. ICJ is STILL alive!
Apr 27, 2022 7:37:05 GMT -5
ironnut77: Dust? More like clumps of clay Welcome back Rosdaddy!
Mar 30, 2022 7:51:16 GMT -5
rosdaddy: *blows dust off his old IronFans username* Well, would you look at that...here I am...again. WHAT'S UP, IRONFANS ALUMS?? (And everyone else!) Hi!!!!
Mar 29, 2022 21:41:10 GMT -5
Man Alive!: A reboot of Iron Chef is coming to Netflix! And welcome, icfanus5!
Jan 20, 2022 20:02:24 GMT -5
icfanus5: Hello all and Happy New Year! Long time IC fan. Started watching when I was probably 10 or 11 years old, I'm 35 now! I'm sad to see a lot of the people no longer with us, like Kobe and Kandagawa.
Jan 2, 2022 16:44:56 GMT -5
Post by miwaneisan on Jan 30, 2013 12:41:50 GMT -5
Thanks HC. I agree with you.
I think that we have both feelings, "No...it's different from the original one I loved & expected. They shouldn't make the show in that way anymore. I wanted the perfect original revival." and "It's OK for now. I don't want them to cancel the show too soon but want them to develop and grow up the show more and more." If Fuji comes a gutzer, I'm worried that we won't see any more new history of IC. In any case, they are home of IC. I was wondering if you don't mind, may I sometimes share the situation & information of the show with you here, mainly from Fuji's official site or other Japanese fan's board? (incl. good & bad?) If you want to stay at the original IC's memory, I don't.
(Sorry for my bizarre English as usual.)
PS. maybe the dessert battle is coming soon!
Last Edit: Jan 30, 2013 13:13:23 GMT -5 by miwaneisan
Post by herringchoker on Jan 30, 2013 14:43:49 GMT -5
Miwa, I think I can speak for all the regular participants when I say PLEASE feel free to share whatever information you find out about the new show, from whatever source.
And you are right that when a show is remade, especially when the original version was very popular, there will be people who will dislike the new version simply because it is not exactly the same as the original version. I have had those feelings about different shows over the years, but I always try to find and enjoy what is good about each version and not worry so much about the ways they are different.
I was wondering if you don't mind, may I sometimes share the situation & information of the show with you here, mainly from Fuji's official site or other Japanese fan's board? (incl. good & bad?) If you want to stay at the original IC's memory, I don't.
I just noticed my bad English. I should have said "everyone" instead of "you" in the above.
It's interesting, HC! Maybe Japanese fans are in the process you and everyone passed. Eye opener for me. (I learnt this word from Engllish dubbed IC epi. ;D) I really appreciate your hint. I'll try to throw this hint at Fuji's facebook or other boards and share with other fans.
And as for the rumor about cancellation, it's not confirmed officially yet but I''ll try to update if I get some more.
Last Edit: Jan 31, 2013 9:28:45 GMT -5 by miwaneisan
Post by herringchoker on Jan 31, 2013 15:43:09 GMT -5
Miwa, the word "you" can be used in the singular or the plural, so you were not wrong with your original sentence. I answered the way I did ("I think I can speak for all the regular participants...") only to mean that I was quite sure everyone else would feel the same way I did, since I was the first to answer.
So..., going back to the point, I searched the Japanese TV shows ratings data for the 8-9 pm on 1/25 (fri.): (Japanese TV network consists of 1 national station NHK, 5 main commercial TV stations and many minor stations such as cable. 5 main commercial stations are: NTV(=Japan TV), TV Asahi, TBS, TV Tokyo and Fuji TV)
<01/25> 6.0% 19:57-20:54 Iron Chef (Fuji TV) 10.7% 19:56-20:54 Sekai-Banzuke (world ranking in variety of culture) ... hosted by comedian (NTV) 11.4% 20:00-20:54 Music Station (music live show) ... hosted by comedian (TV Asahi) 19.3% 19:56-21:48 Kin-SMA (documentary of famous people's life) Special ... hosted by Nakai of J-POP group SMAP (TBS)
There already were some existing high ratings shows in this timeslot on Fri. but Fuji screwed new IC in there. As Tetsujin070561 said on Tutheadfs site, the Friday at 8 pm timeslot is a really terrible one. I really hope Fuji is changing the date or timeslot for the air of new ICJ, but I havenft seen this information yet.
Only Gendai (the Japanese tabloid paper) published the article of cancellation of new ICJ. After 10 days passed since that, it looks like the majority of Japanese people (net citizen) took the article of Gendai at face value. (seem trusting... ) I have a monthly TV program guide magazine for the month of February. It shows new ICJ will be scheduled to be aired on 2/15, 2/22 and 3/1.
Last Edit: Feb 18, 2013 12:48:02 GMT -5 by miwaneisan
Post by Sanji Himura on Feb 2, 2013 23:25:23 GMT -5
Just because they are cutting back on air dates doesn't mean that the show is canceled. It is as you said, Miwa-san, it could be the fact that they are airing it on a bad time slot that is the problem. Iron Chef was known as the Clut Classic here in the states. That is where the popularity grew, and that is where it should stay.
For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
Yes, Friday's prime time is, as you can see other shows of this timeslot in the above, may not conform to Iron Chef. (that's why Fuji remade it in casual & relaxing style? ...ie. disclosure of chef's recipe or gourmet report of the challenger's restaurants by a talent...)
When the revival started, some Japanese old fans said, we could watch it much more if they would air it at 10 pm. As Japanese Wikipedia describes, the original Iron Chef aired: Sunday 22:30-23:00 (30 min.) during 10/10/1993-03/27/1994 and Friday 23:00-23:45 (45 min.) during 04/08/1994-09/24/1999. It was rather mad cult gourmet show mainly for adults at least here in Japan. Iron Chefs were unreachable existance. On the other hand, I feel that Iron Chefs were rather like everyone's heroes in the US, AU, UK etc... (sorry if different, it's my own impression) Or, are Iron Chefs still cult popularity in western area??
I was wondering if...(as someone commented in another thread "Iron Chef 2012 Pilot Review") that was why Fuji brought some of international format into it, to be reborn as familiar show to all people in that time slot? (and they miscalculated?) Personaly, I want to support this show anytime whenever they have good ratings or bad ratings.
Last Edit: Feb 6, 2013 10:47:10 GMT -5 by miwaneisan
There is still a chance that it won't be cancelled. Fuji's another show will be cancelled in March and a kind of official announcement was made about it. (I read it @ Fuji's official twitter "Ima-Tsubu") But there is no official announcement about Iron Chef yet, even though the tabloid article said it would be ended in March, too. But this is someone's twitter, I'll keep my eyes open for more news.
Last Edit: Feb 9, 2013 13:16:07 GMT -5 by miwaneisan
There is still a chance that it wonft be cancelled. Fuji's another show will be cancelled in March and a kind of official announcement was made about it. (I read it @ Fuji's official twitter.) But there is no official announcement about Iron Chef yet, even though the tabloid article said it would be ended in March, too. But this is someone's twitter, I'll keep my eyes open for more news.
It looks like the show is safe for now. I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you so much for keeping us updated.
I wouldn't be surprised if Fuji is hoping to keep the show on the air for as long as it possibly can in order to make the series more appealing to the international market. Although we haven't heard any rumblings about any other countries picking up rerun rights, Fuji must realize the international popularity of the Iron Chef brand. If another country picked up the rights to this series, Fuji would be entitled to a lot of money, just as I'm sure they were with the original version.
That's all speculation on my part, but it just seems like good business sense that Fuji would want to milk one of its most beloved franchises for everything it's worth. I personally hope the show stays on the air at least a little while longer, as it truly is a wonderful love letter to the original.
I don't know yet but it looks like Fuji sees nothing more than what's right in front of them(rating), because low rating means that their sponsers are getting away. (before exporting it to other countries...) But if they, somehow, keep this series on the air for 7 years, the production cost (a dozen million yen for the new KS) will pay for itself in 3 years by exporting the rights to this series to other countries, I guess???
Japanese market may be difficult and different from others. But it sounds true that they had better move the day or timeslot and grow up the new show more and more. I read many comments like this in some message boards in JP. Friday's 19:57 is the time for kids and housewives here! (It's tough for me to come home by that time from work!)
Last Edit: Feb 9, 2013 14:02:06 GMT -5 by miwaneisan
Post by okonomiyagi on Feb 5, 2013 10:56:03 GMT -5
Kids and housewives don't exactly sound like Iron Chef's typical target demographic, but then maybe that's what they're trying to do with that upcoming episode.
At least here in the States, there are so many cooking competition shows that have diluted the market for them. I think, though, there is a general reverence for the original Iron Chef, so if they heard a revival is coming their way, they'd probably be all over it. Morimoto himself tweeted a picture of Kitchen Stadium 2012 (and him holding up a sign with Michiba's name on it), and the reception to that had been largely positive from his stateside followers.
Besides, Iron Chef America has become incredibly stale. We could use a good version of Iron Chef here.
Man Alive! Definitely! Fuji really should have a long-range view of the new show. We all have been worried a lot about the rumor and their situation these days but today I found something wonderful in the box of "Next On Air" at Fuji's Iron Chef official site. A big challenger will come to the next epi.! Fuji is just getting into the swings of things?? I really hope so.
Tuthead, same here, I'm glad, too, to hear that you are relieved. Please please stay motivated to keep up your site.
And, Okonomiyagi, as you said, I truly feel that original Iron Chef sounds much more respected in the states or other countries rather than home country, especially since I came to this board.... ummm
Last Edit: Feb 9, 2013 12:28:53 GMT -5 by miwaneisan