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Post by tetsujin070561 on Feb 8, 2013 19:45:59 GMT -5
Cancellation now would be a tremendous embarrassment, if not outright humiliation, for Fuji TV. Have the fans of the original series really turned against the concept of the show itself?? If so, then as someone who is part-Japanese, I would be very disappointed in the inhabitants of my ancestors' home...:-(
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Post by tuthead on Feb 9, 2013 1:16:04 GMT -5
I think seeing the very first Ryouri no Tetsujin episode just reinforces that sometimes a show needs time to find its groove. The more I think about it, they would probably at least let the show run long enough to recoup some of the expense of creating the new Kitchen Stadium.
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 9, 2013 14:48:27 GMT -5
Cancellation now would be a tremendous embarrassment, if not outright humiliation, for Fuji TV. Have the fans of the original series really turned against the concept of the show itself?? If so, then as someone who is part-Japanese, I would be very disappointed in the inhabitants of my ancestors' home...:-( To tell the truth, in Japan, Fuji TV bashing has heated up in the last years. That's why the press (tabloid) is enjoying controversial issue in my point of view.
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Feb 10, 2013 1:37:06 GMT -5
I think seeing the very first Ryouri no Tetsujin episode just reinforces that sometimes a show needs time to find its groove. The more I think about it, they would probably at least let the show run long enough to recoup some of the expense of creating the new Kitchen Stadium. Makes perfect sense, Keith, and if Fuji TV has any hope of someday selling these new broadcasts in worldwide syndication, it will need to maintain the show for some time.
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Feb 10, 2013 1:37:59 GMT -5
Cancellation now would be a tremendous embarrassment, if not outright humiliation, for Fuji TV. Have the fans of the original series really turned against the concept of the show itself?? If so, then as someone who is part-Japanese, I would be very disappointed in the inhabitants of my ancestors' home...:-( To tell the truth, in Japan, Fuji TV bashing has heated up in the last years. That't why the press (tabloid) is enjoying controversial issue in my point of view. Miwa-san, is this in part because of Fuji TV's past success with South Korean doramas?
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 10, 2013 11:23:11 GMT -5
Ahc, that is what mainly 2 Channel board inhabitants are hot on. (2 Channel might be a bit similar to 4 Chan for English speaking people...I guess...?? They have no name, no ID, just like ants. So...basically I don't trust them. Basically. Sorry, it's just my image.)
Personally I don't know exactly why Fuji TV bashing occurred in 2011. And also, in accordance with the rules of this board, I can't say something rather political here on behalf of only a few Japanese people. But, that being said, IN GENERAL, it is said that the reason of Fuji TV bashing & recent low ratings of each of their shows is that they haven't caught the audience's needs in the last years. (Fuji became more powerful in the age of the bubble economy. But the times have changed.)
All I can say is that it looks like the new Iron Chef show is mixed up in foolish catch-as-catch-can game of Fuji and the press (tabloid). Good show is good. It should be continued as far as many fans are supporting it. That's about it!?
Also I agree with Tuthead. A show needs time to find its groove depending on audience's needs or situation.
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 14, 2013 11:30:02 GMT -5
As for lack of character of iron chefs and Tamaki, there were some complaining comments in Japanese message boards, too. But it's getting better little by little. (recently camera often catches Tamaki's face during tasting) I like Suga's "trademark" champagne toasting, too. Each character began to take root in. I hope they don't cancel the show so soon. Maybe we expected too much because original ICJ's golden age's impact is too strong. My husband and I were talking about the situation a few days ago, and we agreed it would be foolish for Fuji to cancel the show quickly. It takes time for any show to develop the characters and format. After a few seasons, go back and watch the first few episodes of any of your favorite shows and see how much it has changed for the better in many ways. As Miwa said, when you compare to the heyday of the original ICJ, of course the new show is going to be lacking...but the early episodes of the original (many of which never aired in the US) were not as polished as the later ones. I introduced HC's comment to Japanese fans at Iron Chef facebook as a comment from an int'l fan the other day because I saw some fans's critical comments such as "I hate this new format" or "I hate they unveil the ingredient or nominee in advance" or "Come back original casts", etc. And there were so many reactions by other positive fan's clicking " good". HC's opinion sounded fresh for them. because they saw the remake version of ICJ in their own country for the first time. Thank you so much, HC! In this way, I sometimes introduce everyone's comments from this board, comments by HC, MA, Tut, Tetsu, Okonomiyagi, Sanji.... sometimes quote by copy& paste in English and other times by translating in my own words and those get alwayas plural reactions " good". Thanks everyone! (Don't worry, I've never said you are watching the show ) So...about the rumor of cancellation, it is still just rumor. No updated. Only tabloid said. No official comment by Fuji. There is a kind of Fuji's official twitter named "Ima-tsubu"(ƒCƒ}‚‚Ô) (Japanese only) imatsubu.jp/campaign/ironchefand fans tweet there everyday. IC staffs and Yamamoto producer tweet there, too. I found the other day, someone tweeted "No cancel, please. Please keep it long on the air!" and the staffs reacted about it for the first time. They only quoted her comment and no comment theirselves. I didn't know what they meant... why no deny? I really hate when I type a searching keyword "ƒAƒCƒAƒ“ƒVƒFƒt"(Iron chef) in Yahoo Japan homepage, automatically the next word "‘Å‚¿Ø‚è"(cancellation) is popping up still now. It looks like such a number of people are intereseted in or trusting?
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Post by herringchoker on Feb 14, 2013 14:31:51 GMT -5
I'm glad my comment seemed to get people thinking. Speaking for myself, I always forget how much a television show changes over the life of the series, and it's only if I happen to see reruns of the early episodes that I am reminded of how much the show has evolved. So it never hurts to consciously remind oneself that shows evolve (and usually improve) over time.
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Post by Sanji Himura on Feb 15, 2013 0:11:34 GMT -5
By the way, Miwa-san I do post on the IC facebook page, it is just under my real name.
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 15, 2013 12:06:39 GMT -5
HC, my post that I introduced your comment got 13 clicks "good"(like?) in these three days.
Sanji, I'm glad you joined the ICJ facebook page. Welcome aboard. Now we're connected!
And...phew...the ICJ facebook is bursting into flames by huge number of comment tonight...about today's battle... o/==z
So many negative people are complaining, "it's a fraud""don't air anymore", and also so many positive people are opposing, "it was wonderful""impressive". (mostly about the judge and the show's structure, not about chef's (or dish's) fabulousness) I have never seen this huge number of comment at one night. I have been there until just before, but gave up! They all must be longtime fans of IC though! I'm disappointed with narrow-minded Japanese fans...ashamed...(oh, maybe it's more like the CRAZY fan of Beetles or Michael Jackson!? cannot accept even a bit of difference from their ideal style??)
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 17, 2013 3:27:08 GMT -5
I just want to say, Sanji was great at IC facebook page. Corresponding to each spoiler with his data and logic. I can't do in that way. Encouraging. I was feeling like shouting, Go! Sanji! Go!! The spoilers were terrible and too many. Also rude. No reply to someone's comment. Just saying what they want to say. (lnc. inappropriate words) Unbelievable. It's Iron Chef's site. Wondering if some were drunkers? Also I want to say, during Fri. night and Sat., people are so hot but now cooling down and his comments started to be clicked "good" little by little, by some English understandable people with good sense. (I think people couldn't try to understand English as soon as they saw it) Thanks, Sanji! Well, summarized English and Japanese official sites we found so far : Japanese: www.fujitv.co.jp/ironchef/index.htmlwww.facebook.com/fujitv.ironchefimatsubu.jp/campaign/ironchefEnglish: www.facebook.com/IronChefJapantwitter.com/IronChefJapan12/following
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 18, 2013 12:26:44 GMT -5
<Looks like English sites was not Fuji's official. Sorry about that. Just let me correct. But the picture's collection is very well done, right?>
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 22, 2013 11:32:00 GMT -5
a bit updated info.
Two hours ago, 1 comment by Mr. Yamashita(ŽR‰º), an owner chef of a certain French restaurant in Tokyo was posted in IC facebook. He says; ŽR‰º ‹ã ‘Å‚¿Ø‚è‚É‚Í‚È‚è‚Ü‚¹‚ñ‚æI ƒXƒyƒVƒƒƒ‹‚Å‘±‚¯‚Ä‚¢‚Á‚Ä ’x‚¢ŽžŠÔ‘Ñ‚É‚È‚é‚»‚¤‚Å‚·B ‚¾‚Á‚ÄA‰´‚ªo‚é‚Ü‚Å‚â‚ß‚È‚¢‚Å‚µ‚åI ‚È‚ñ‚Ä‚Ë(^O^)v
--> ICJ won't be cancelled! I heard that it would be continued as a special and move to late time slot. Also, they can't cencel until I will challenge, don't you think?! Just kidding?(^o^)v
I don't know what his source is, but he is a person in culinary field. Hopefully his source is credible. You can find his comment in the section of the close-up picture of today's nominee, grasping a colander in his right hand, in IC facebook. Maybe the tabloid paper heard that regular air would be cancelled and they stretched the story?
*Recently I find some comments by chefs in this page. When looking in their FB, I find their friends, famous chefs including Mr. Kimio Nonaga, a Japanese cuisine chef who won Chen in 2002 Japan cup. I can easily imagine many chefs checking this page. But they couldn't post so far, I guess? (because they have so-so status?) But looks like they just started posting. Influenced by chef Yamada's post the other day??
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Post by okonomiyagi on Feb 22, 2013 11:58:46 GMT -5
Perhaps so, Miwa-san.
But if this is true, then this is great news! I wonder if "continued as a special" means we won't get weekly episodes like we're getting now, but still...fewer episodes are better than no episodes!
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Post by miwaneisan on Feb 26, 2013 12:15:06 GMT -5
Perhaps so, Miwa-san. But if this is true, then this is great news! I wonder if "continued as a special" means we won't get weekly episodes like we're getting now, but still...fewer episodes are better than no episodes! I think so, Okomomiyagi. Mr. Yamashita, a chef I mentioned in my previous post, he posted another comment in IC facebook page yesterday: "Regular air would be cancelled in March and a special episode would be aired in May", but this comment has gone today. I'm sure I saw it. Probably he deleted it. Today I got a monthly TV program guide magazine for March. FujiTV's program schedule on Friday 7-9 pm is: 3/1 19:57-20:54 -- Iron Chef 3/8 19:00-20:54 -- not fixed yet (under adjustment) 3/15 19:00-20:54 -- World Figuure Skating tournament 2013 3/22 19:57-20:54 -- Iron Chef 3/29 19:00-20:54 -- another variety show It's a monthly forecast, so there may be probability of change.
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