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Post by tetsujin070561 on Feb 26, 2013 21:00:32 GMT -5
Thank you, Miwa-san, for the additional information. Hopefully, the program will contine. At least it appears that we may get another battle on 03.22.2013.
Looking forward to a dessert battle this Friday.
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Post by craigv888 on Feb 28, 2013 0:31:26 GMT -5
My friend from Japan also told me she heard it will be canceled in March. She didnt mention anything about a special in May though. Let us know if you hear anymore about the special in May. She said since it ends in April she will send me the BDRs of the episodes in April, Although if we have news of a special or more episodes later then i'll tell her to wait and send it later and hopefully record the special/new episodes. Anyway, it sucks, although I hope it doesnt effect the rebroadcasts of the old episodes on FujiTV One. I noticed Fuji TV Next also shows Iron Chef America, so maybe they arent just showing them because of the new series.
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Mar 1, 2013 0:07:20 GMT -5
My friend from Japan also told me she heard it will be canceled in March. She didnt mention anything about a special in May though. Let us know if you hear anymore about the special in May. She said since it ends in April she will send me the BDRs of the episodes in April, Although if we have news of a special or more episodes later then i'll tell her to wait and send it later and hopefully record the special/new episodes. Anyway, it sucks, although I hope it doesnt effect the rebroadcasts of the old episodes on FujiTV One. I noticed Fuji TV Next also shows Iron Chef America, so maybe they arent just showing them because of the new series. It would be nice if they were to be continued, Craig, but I wouldn't get your hopes up; there were no rebroadcasts for ten full years until the new series was relaunched. If the new series is cancelled, it would be surprising if the rebroadcasts continued. |
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Post by craigv888 on Mar 1, 2013 0:38:12 GMT -5
I agree it is unlikely that they would continue for too much longer after the new series is taken off the air, but one can hope! It has been great gettting these 1993/1994 episodes, and in such great quality. It is a premium network, so maybe they need content to fill the channels with, who knows? They do have 3 Premium channels (FujiTV One, FujiTV Two, and FujiTV Next), so maybe it will continue, even if its on a lesser channel that FujiTV One. They sure do give it a lot of time slots, it's on 3 days a week, although they seem to show less than 1 hour of "new" episodes per week. Episodes #21 & #22 are most recent ones they are scheduled to show, which would be on 3/28. With reruns of episodes 21/22 and earlier currently showing through 3/30. bangumi.skyperfectv.co.jp/e2/channel:3307/program:料理の鉄人/ |
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Post by miwaneisan on Mar 2, 2013 15:52:18 GMT -5
Fuji TV's official announcement was made. headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130301-00000305-oric-entThe source is ORICON. They are credible. They are a provider of entertainment information and contents; especially they are famous for ORICON charts. (like a Billboard charts in the US) They said as follows (Sorry for my bad English but I did my best for the translation. Hope you understand): It was revealed in a briefing session of program reorganization by Fuji TV on 3/1 that "Iron Chef" (Fri. 7:57pm), the revival of "Ryori no Tetsujin", a program representing Fuji TV, will be terminated in March. They started to air the new show in last October but the show's title, the time slot, iron chefs didn't fit in the audience and they decided the termination of regular broadcast. Mr. Tatematsu, General Manager of Editing, explained, "Iron Chef is a high quality show and we can say it is FujiTV's treasure. Currently we are struggling for the ratings. We think we have a time slot problem, too, so we would like to consider about a way to make it as special program and forward it into the next stage." As a trend of the latest audience, Mr. Arai, Chief of Editing & Producing bureau talked about the difficulty of fixing of new show, "Not only they refuse something new but also they hate mannerism". From April, their another variety show "Jinsei no Seikai TV ~ Korega Teppan! ~" will be scheduled to be promoted from occasional program to regular broadcast (to be aired in there). It is an information variety show with the theme of searching "which is the correct way?" in a lot of "choice" scene in our life, such as crisis situation in survival scene or real problem in our daily life. The casts are under adjustment. |
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Post by herringchoker on Mar 2, 2013 18:30:24 GMT -5
Sad news.
But what I don't quite understand is this: if Fuji realizes the time slot is at least part of the ratings problem, why the show isn't simply moved to a different/better time slot and given a proper opportunity to prove itself.
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Post by craigv888 on Mar 2, 2013 18:51:52 GMT -5
Hopefully they will announce when they will be doing the specials soon... Is the show still on for the 22nd? On the shows official webpage it says "調整中" which just means they are adjusting the schedule ?
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Mar 2, 2013 21:42:25 GMT -5
Sad news. But what I don't quite understand is this: if Fuji realizes the time slot is at least part of the ratings problem, why the show isn't simply moved to a different/better time slot and given a proper opportunity to prove itself. The reason for this is that Fuji TV decision-makers are morons, but that is nothing new. This is an incredible humiliation for them. However, it also appears that there simply isn't much of an "appetite" left for this program vehicle. Very sad, IMHO...  |
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Mar 2, 2013 21:43:15 GMT -5
Fuji TVfs official announcement was made. headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20130301-00000305-oric-entThe source is ORICON. They are credible. They are a provider of entertainment information and content; especially they are famous for ORICON charts. (like a Billboard charts in the US) They said as follows (Sorry for my bad English but I did my best for the translation. Hope you understand): It was revealed in a briefing session of program reorganization by Fuji TV on 3/1 that gIron Chefh (Fri. 7:57pm), the revival of gRyori no Tetsujinh, a program representing Fuji TV will be terminated in March. They started to air the new show in last October but the showfs title, the time slot, iron chefs didnft fit in the audience and they decided the termination of regular broadcast. Mr. Tatematsu, General Manager of Editing, explained, g Iron Chef is a high quality show and we can say it is FujiTVfs treasure. Currently we are struggling for the ratings. We think we have a time slot problem, too, so we would like to consider about a way to make it as special program and forward it into the next stage.h As a trend of the latest audience, Mr. Arai, Chief of Editing & Producing bureau talked about the difficulty of fixing of new show, gNot only they refuse something new but also they hate mannerismh. From April, their another variety show gJinsei no Seikai TV ~ Korega Teppan! ~h will be scheduled to be promoted from occasional program to regular broadcast (to be aired in there). It is an information variety show with the theme of searching gwhich is the correct way?h in a lot of gchoiceh scene in our life, such as crisis situation in survival scene or real problem in our daily life. The casts are under adjustment. Thank you, Miwa-san, for the official news. |
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Mar 2, 2013 21:45:32 GMT -5
Hopefully they will announce when they will be doing the specials soon... Is the show still on for the 22nd? On the shows official webpage it says "調整中" which just means they are adjusting the schedule ? I wouldn't get your hopes up about the "specials" possibility, Craig. When the original series finished, we heard all about how IC would go global and live on in another form, but I think we all know how that turned out. |
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Post by miwaneisan on Mar 3, 2013 11:11:01 GMT -5
Hopefully they will announce when they will be doing the specials soon... Is the show still on for the 22nd? On the shows official webpage it says "調整中" which just means they are adjusting the schedule ? They always put advance notice only few days before the next air date. Looks like they always put the comment "’²®’†"(under adjustment) all the time when they donft have an approval from the top even though they already finish recording of the next air. At the last scene of the episode #12 (3/1), you can see the back of the next challenger. I read a speculation among Japanese fans that it might be a big shot in French cuisine?? I think we will have one more "regular" episode in March. Let's look forward to the next episode! (In Japan, everything would change to something new in April; school grade, fiscal year, reoganization of company, etc...) I think, ironically the new show has been getting better and better since February... it's too good to cancel.  As Tets said, I think, too, it's Fuji's decision maker's fault. Iron Chefs did their best for this show, for all young chefs, for IC fans, in between their super busy schedule. Challengers did good job. Staffs did their best. However, as far as I read the above official announcement, looks like Fuji's top people say as if it's audience's fault. That's why I said before in this thread that Fuji TV hasn't caught the needs of audience in the latest years. I totally agree with HC's question. So many fans have been claiming that they should just move the time slot for more viewers. Why didn't they do that? Sounds foolish. Looks like Fuji's top never changes their style. Anyway I didn't imagine that it would trace the same destiny as IC USA version. They are home of all of Iron Chefs though... Very sad. |
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Post by Sanji Himura on Mar 3, 2013 16:31:49 GMT -5
Let me put it to you this way, shows have been canceled here in the US for less. There was nothing wrong with the formula, and each played their parts beautify. However, the blame must be squarely placed on the management of FujiTV. They thought they had a winner for, and Miwa-san correct me if I am wrong, Friday nights, but ultimately, it was a ratings bomb in that time slot.
It would be akin to moving Hawaii Five-0(the new one) to Fridays, and expect it to compete with NBC and FOX week in and week out. It is not going to work. That is why CBS hires a team of researchers to tell them when to broadcast the show to maximize viewers.
Obviously Fuji didn't do that, or instead of hearing the cancellation of the show, they would have moved it to another time slot, a time slot where it could have competed against HNK.
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Post by tetsujin070561 on Mar 4, 2013 2:42:32 GMT -5
Let me put it to you this way, shows have been canceled here in the US for less. There was nothing wrong with the formula, and each played their parts beautify. However, the blame must be squarely placed on the management of FujiTV. They thought they had a winner for, and Miwa-san correct me if I am wrong, Friday nights, but ultimately, it was a ratings bomb in that time slot. I agree that Fuji TV screwed up, probably in several ways, but it seems pretty clear that many of the former viewers and fans of the original series simply weren't interested in a new version and wouldn't have supported one in any time slot. That, I think, is very sad... |
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Post by miwaneisan on Mar 4, 2013 11:02:16 GMT -5
HC, your question is quite same as mine. Why didn't they simply solve the problem? It's a sort of large company's sickness. IC might be sacrificed.(IMO) And I think both of you are right, Sanji, Tets. Many people are thinking that Fujifs top management didn't understand the market of this show. They just simply thought that they could win even in Fri. prime time because they tasted victory in the past with this show. They didn't understand what was good with the original series. (time slot, format or target market) The original show was aired on Sun. 22:30-23:00 ('93.10-'94.3) and after they got sure it could succeed, they moved to Fri. 23:00-23:45 ('94.4-'99.9). Also in the original show, the terms were all in Japanese (Chosensha, Tetsujin and the title: Ryouri-no-Tetsujin) Many people donft understand the meaning of Nominee still now. As for their rival for the ratings, Fuji couldn't win any other key commercial TV stations (TBS, NTV, etc.) as you can see their ratings data on Fri. prime time I mentioned before in this thread. Because as Sanji and Okonomiyagi said before, this show is supported by cult popularity and culinary related people. They didn't understand this show's ID. I think that the staffs knew the time slot was one of the big problems. But the management didn't change it and continued to run. A big question we still have is that's why they took away good points of the original series? This is still our question. I guess many of you, world's fans, expected the original format of ICJ, too, once the revival started. There were some rumors in Japanese internet about this. Fuji sold all rights about original Ryouri-no-Tetsujin format to FN so they couldn't make the same thing anymore, etc. But it is doubtful. Actually many people are thinking that maybe ignorant old management simply thought they should change everything to something new because of renewal. The only one fact I know is that Fuji TV didn't make the original Ryori-no-Tetsujin by their selves in '90. Fuji's affiliate company: Nihon Telework (Japan Television Workshop Co., Ltd.) made it actually. They were a production company and produced many big hit shows in '90. They have gone now though. Fuji ordered actual production of Ryori no Tetsujin to them. (perhaps the initial idea was born by Fuji, though) Fuji just gave them the image, concept and expense of the show and Nihon Telework created the specific format. But, as for the revival show, Fuji made it by their selves. (due to budget?) I read in many sites that Fuji delivered the production staffs of Nihon Telework to FN in order to produce Iron Chef America. And, Tets, I can see there are variety types of viewers and fans in Japan: dislike, like, dislike so donft watch, dislike but keep watching in the point of long-term significance, like any shows of IC, dislike all Fuji's shows, etc. I couldn't recover from my shock for a couple of days. Gambatte (Good luck) to all Iron Chef in other countries! |
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Post by miwaneisan on Mar 12, 2013 12:53:31 GMT -5
Well, my friend in Okinawa said the Okinawa local version of TV programing guide shows obviously that it will be aired as a special program after REGULAR broadcasts finishes on 3/22.
Nationwide version of programing guide I have doesn't say anything about it, though.
BTW, I was watching one of English dubbed video of original series and I found:
Chief Director: Mr. Keiichi Tanaka (a freelance stage director)
Production: Japan Television Workshop
Copyright: Fuji Television
I think that Tanaka-san is one of fathers of Iron Chef (IMO). I wish he would take part in producing the upcoming IC special program...
When I looked into Tanaka-san's FB page, there was a picture of him and Italian cuisine chef Mr. Ochiai(big name) being together.
But as far as I read his recent comments, looks like not only is he not interested in stage producing work but he hates TV now...! He used to be absolutely a genius TV show maker but he lives a life full of ups and downs like chef Yamada, I guess?
I think I now understand a little bit that Fuji is struggling for production staffs...
(P.S. Thank you, Keith, for mentioning about Japan Earthquake two year anniversary in your site and reminding people about it. It was really scary for the people in East Japan. I came home from work on foot spending 5 or 6 hours at that night though I couldn't understand what was happening. Thank you all friends in the world for praying for us.)
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