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Post by nitrofishblue on Oct 11, 2006 6:16:02 GMT -5
I am not surprised that this has happened, just that it took so long. ICJ had become very stagnant because of no new shows since the late 90's.
I used to watch it whenever I had the chance but lost interest after I realized that I knew the dialog by heart. There were no surprises and the show was so slow paced. A quarter of the telecast was dedicated to promos and introductions. You got to see very little of the prep work because of all the superfluous stuff.
ICUSA was doomed from the beginning. The producers really misunderstood the concept.
I really do enjoy ICA. The show is fast-paced and the cooking action starts in less than four minutes into the show. The producers have chosen some very well qualified competitors. The first rematch with Chef Donna was great. With more time, I am sure that they will develop more "factions" like the old ICJ.
I love it when the chefs interact with Alton during the cooking, explaining what they are doing or what ingredient they are using. Mario is a hoot. He always looks like he is enjoying himself.
I really like the presence of more female competitors and sous chefs. They have all done a great job.
ICJ had a long glorious run but all things must come to an end. It would be great to see some of the old ICJ chefs cook in ICA as competitors.
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Post by herringchoker on Oct 11, 2006 11:27:46 GMT -5
Well said, NFB. I feel pretty much the same way. I just wish the powers that be had taken the opportunity to translate/dub the entire series - about half the ICJ episodes have never aired in this country. I would love to see the rest of the shows.
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Post by Arrianna on Oct 11, 2006 19:06:34 GMT -5
The computer I want to use is in an entirely different room than the VCR. Do stores still sell VCRs? Yes. You can find them in major retail outlets. Does your computer have a video capture card?
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Post by Iron Chef Mandy on Oct 11, 2006 23:46:19 GMT -5
Video capture card? Where do you find one of those? (NOTE: I'm somewhat computer illiterate.)
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Post by Arrianna on Oct 12, 2006 11:13:08 GMT -5
Video capture card? Where do you find one of those? (NOTE: I'm somewhat computer illiterate.) If you don't know what it is you don't have one. They have to be bought seperate and installed. At that point a DVR is less expensive and If you're going to get one you need to buy it this year anyway before they become illegal to sell (not own, just sell). I need to get one myself. A DVR operates just like a DVD player and can be hooked to your VCR for recording files. They come with full instructions.
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Post by mickster on Oct 12, 2006 11:43:54 GMT -5
Arrianna, why are dvr's going to be "illegal" to sell? Just curious. I did get mine but haven't hooked it up yet.
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Post by Arrianna on Oct 12, 2006 12:27:58 GMT -5
Because in 2007 the Digital Millinium Copyright Act kicks in and unless it's been changed it was made illegal supposedly to cut down on piracy but in actuality they are trying to force people to get express permission for any copy of a digital format even if you own it. It will probably end up going to the Supreme Court but in the meantime it doesn't hurt to comply with the law.
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Post by Man Alive! on Oct 12, 2006 17:29:30 GMT -5
Not to interrupt the conversation, but this news has been added to the "news" section of the Kitchen Stadium main page.
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Post by Man Alive! on Oct 12, 2006 17:31:14 GMT -5
I am not surprised that this has happened, just that it took so long. ICJ had become very stagnant because of no new shows since the late 90's. I used to watch it whenever I had the chance but lost interest after I realized that I knew the dialog by heart. There were no surprises and the show was so slow paced. A quarter of the telecast was dedicated to promos and introductions. You got to see very little of the prep work because of all the superfluous stuff. ICUSA was doomed from the beginning. The producers really misunderstood the concept. I really do enjoy ICA. The show is fast-paced and the cooking action starts in less than four minutes into the show. The producers have chosen some very well qualified competitors. The first rematch with Chef Donna was great. With more time, I am sure that they will develop more "factions" like the old ICJ. I love it when the chefs interact with Alton during the cooking, explaining what they are doing or what ingredient they are using. Mario is a hoot. He always looks like he is enjoying himself. I really like the presence of more female competitors and sous chefs. They have all done a great job. ICJ had a long glorious run but all things must come to an end. It would be great to see some of the old ICJ chefs cook in ICA as competitors. This is one of the main reasons I dislike ICA- not enough drama. The cooking is important, but the dramatics are what made ICJ so fun to watch.
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Post by mickster on Oct 12, 2006 19:09:16 GMT -5
So true, MA. The drama is an attention getter. ICA really is BORINGGGGG. It has a lot to do with the players, also. But, we've been over this before, right?
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Post by ironchefcanadian on Oct 12, 2006 22:19:32 GMT -5
The thing is, ICA did come close to the ICJ standard with the Besh battle, because you had that restaurant recovering from a tragedy (Katrina). Also the Erne battle where they explained the problem about the one sous-chef.
One of the really big problems is that there is no equivalent to a Kandagawa Army or an Ohta faction in North America, no group that can challenge the presumptions of the Iron Chefs the way the traditionalists or the new hotshots have done with ICJ.
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Post by allezcuisine on Oct 14, 2006 17:13:40 GMT -5
I'm really disgusted with ICA...I'm really more disgusted with Food Network. I rarely watch FN anymore.
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Post by Man Alive! on Oct 15, 2006 11:37:24 GMT -5
I'm slowly losing interest in ICA. I don't know if I'll ever stop watching it, but it definitely doesn't give me the thrill that it used to. It's just, like Mickster said, getting way too boring.
ICJ had drama- each challenger had a story. It wasn't just "Hey, I'll show up and beat Bobby Flay." It was, "I have something to prove. My restaurant is great, I have a unique style of cooking, and I want to test myself against the masters." ICA is like a gameshow- you show up and do you thing. ICJ was something more.
And I'm sure Food Network did all of this on purpose to be different- I just don't support their decision.
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Post by mickster on Oct 15, 2006 13:39:42 GMT -5
I totally agree with you, MA. HERE HERE!
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Post by Arrianna on Oct 15, 2006 14:37:49 GMT -5
Hey! Personally I don't find ICA boring... no more then the early ICJ's. Nearly fell asleep watching a few of those. Give them time. ICJ didn't turn into the finely tuned product that it was right off the bat.
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